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Reviewer: Keiliss Signed [Report This]
Date: March 10, 2013 - 08:40 am
Title: Thranduil

I missed this originally (bad time of the year) and I'm glad I finally got to read it.  I was familiar with most of the hard information, but seeing it all collected together and interpreted gave me a far stronger picture of Thranduil than before. I'm left to wonder why the idea of the greedy and abusive woodland king ever took holc, because this elf is a hero in the true sense of the word. He showed good leadership and kept his people alive through some very dark times. 

A lot's been made in fanfiction of the fact that he alone of the elven leaders of his time lacked a Ring of Power, but although that meant there was no paranormal way to hold back time (or giant spiders), but in the long run both they and their king benefitted - your final quote is very telling: In the Greenwood the Silvan Elves remained untroubled. While Lorien and Rivendell slid slowly back into the world and their people sailed, the Elves of the Greenwood got to enjoy the victory. 

After reading this, I really hope PJ doesn't dumb down his character as badly as I fear might happen.  At least Glorfindel managed to escape bad casting and cringeworthy lines.


Author's Response:

At least Glorfindel managed to escape bad casting and cringeworthy lines.

So very true. I share your fears regarding Thranduil.

I'm left to wonder why the idea of the greedy and abusive woodland king ever took hold...

After re-reading The Hobbit, I think the reason is in the way that story is told. It is supposed to be Bilbo's story and POV. So the reader first "sees" the scenes as they're felt by Bilbo. In the first part of the book, in regard to the Elves and their forest, that is mostly with a touhch of negative tone. So the reader's mind is aligned with that of the hero. And it stays "hero bent" even after the "all knowing story teller" voice is ballancing the facts with some historic or general prespective. That's, at least, how I interpret this.

Thank you so much for reading and commenting.


Reviewer: Laurefinde Signed [Report This]
Date: January 06, 2013 - 06:02 pm
Title: Thranduil

I enjoyed your article and was informed much more than I had previously been regarding Thranduil.  I have passed the article to a friend who wanted more information on Greenwood the Great and the Elves who lived there.  Thanks for writing this.

Author's Response:

I hope it'll be useful for your friend.

Thank you for reading and commenting.

Reviewer: elfscribe Signed [Report This]
Date: January 04, 2013 - 01:10 pm
Title: Thranduil

Excellent essay Scarlet. Good research and lots of food for thought.  Interesting idea that Thranduil's desire for gems might have come from the need for a way to supply his kingdom.  Also appreciated your bringing out the reasons for his hatred of the dwarves.  It occurred to me while reading this that the reason PJ changed the story and made the enmity due to Thranduil's faillure to aid the dwarves when Smaug attacked Erebor was to simplify and make more immediate that long history.  I learned something new too since somehow I'd missed that Celeborn took over the southern part of Eryn Lasgalen after the War of the Rings. Thanks for that.  One small point, you have a typo with the name of the Ring of Fire.  It should be Narya, not Nerya.

Thanks again for a great read.

Author's Response:

I read the Hobbit again a few month back, after many years. For reasons I don't really understand, it brought new insights about parts I never gave much thought before. The idea about the gems was one of them.

I think PJ's fanfic interpretation does not do justice to the texts. He did something similar with removing Glorfindel's character in LOTR, and although script-wise it's took some vital part from all those who only learned of Tolkien's writings from the movies. They lost a lot. I think this new version of the animosity between the Elves and Dwarves will have the same impact.

Thanks for the typo info, will be fixed asap :-), and thank you so much for reading and reviewing.

I appreciate it.

Reviewer: Himring Signed [Report This]
Date: January 04, 2013 - 12:48 pm
Title: Thranduil

This is very informative and really useful!

Author's Response:

Thank you

Reviewer: Dawn Felagund Signed [Report This]
Date: January 03, 2013 - 07:42 pm
Title: Thranduil

I want to add my applause to Oshun's. You did an awesome job on this, and I learned much in reading it--one of the perks of this job for sure! :) I love characters like Thranduil who surface throughout history and who have so many deep connections to other important characters.

I think you did a particularly strong job in arguing that he really and truly does belong among the list of "Elvenkings" as a great ruler. He gets dealt a hard hand in fanon, but you really showed why his strength and resourcefulness helped his people to survive when other "better" Elven settlements did not.

Author's Response:

You can't imagine how happy I am to see your response. I'd

It is exactly what I hoped for, to show Thranduil's character in the light I see it, as one of the "good guys".

Thank you for your kindness and the great help in making this a better article.


Reviewer: oshun Signed [Report This]
Date: January 03, 2013 - 07:08 pm
Title: Thranduil

Very useful and timely!  I am so happy you chose this bio to do.

I am an admirer of Thranduil. I have always appreciated the strength of character and wisdom to have taken the leadership of a decimated people coming out of the Last Alliance and then to rule them wisely and well in a difficult period without the assistance of one fo the Rings of Power which the other major Elven leaders used during that same difficult time.

I greatly appreciate the wealth of detail. Nice work!

Author's Response:

I also feel as you do, and I hope this new "The Hobbit" thrilogy will be kinder in the reactions and depicting of Thranduil's character, then the previous.

Thank you so much for reading and commenting.

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