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Comments For Outsiders of Gondolin Mutual Defence League
Do you believe that Tolkien made him the bad guy later because his father was a "dark elf"? Or was he an instrument to fulfill part of the "Doom of the Noldor"?
That aside, I am loving these bits of his life, and his feelings.
Thank you very much, Silver Trails!
Well, I guess, chronologically, as Tolkien wrote the Fall of Gondolin first, Maeglin was made the bad guy first and his background in the Legendarium only evolved later.
I think the background story he's given is meant to show him as doomed, certainly, not necessarily even originally and straightforwardly connected to the Doom of the Noldor, although Tolkien surely connects it up with that Doom. It also makes Maeglin a victim as well as a villain, but quite how much Tolkien meant the reader to see it like that, isn't clear, especially with the changes he makes to Maeglin's background during revision. (Eol is always portrayed as a "dark elf", but the meaning of "dark elf" changes between versions.)
I think it's interesting to speculate how Maeglin would have been portrayed, if Tolkien had ever got around to continuing the story about Tuor in the Unfinished Tales to the point where Tuor meets Maeglin. Maybe he would still be a plain bad guy, but maybe not?
You're making both Salgant and Maeglin so relatable here. Salgant's silent struggle with the lemon tart was perfectly written, half funny and half sad. I was surprised and delighted when Maeglin revealed that he was paying a lot more attention than Salgant realised! Their conversation in the second chapter was heartbreaking. Maeglin's observations about his invention of Gondolin vs. the reality of it rang very true, and when he asked Salgant to keep talking while he tried to figure it out made me feel really sad for the future that's looming ahead of them. Meanwhile, their friendship, even if it was born from their shared outsider status rather than true inclination, is lovely to read about. I love the title also!
Thank you very much, Lyra!
I'm so glad that you find both Salgant and Maeglin relatable here! They both have their struggles.
I hope I can manage to write some more good bits, before it descends into sadness.
Poor Maeglin. :( He just wants things to turn out nicely for himself, which really is to be expected with his childhood.
I agree with you that he probably wasn't thinking of it as Edain do - the only way I could see that happening is if he borrowed it from the dwarves his father talked to, and even then, I think Eol had enough contact with Thingol's people that he'd realize the difference.
Thank you, Brooke!
I guess I tend to underrate a bit the amount of information and impressions Maeglin may have picked up from the Dwarves!
But I think, in this case, he would realize the difference. Apart from contact with Thingol's people, there are also Eol's servants, which I've always imagined as Elves.
:( Maeglin is so sweet, and quickly comes up with a solution to the problem. And poor Salgant, trying to keep his resolution and just needing a little help that no one besides Maeglin cares to do.I love this chapter, Himring. :D
And then, of course, Morgoth. I mean, obviously Maeglin probably wouldn't exist if Morgoth didn't, but if someone managed to kill him shortly after Aredhel's death, maybe Gondolin wouldn't have been closed off and he (and Salgant) would have been free to leave and go live somewhere else and things could have been happier.
Thank you very much, Brooke! I'm glad this works for you!
I think of Salgant as someone who keeps trying to amuse people as a way of making them not look at him too closely, if that makes sense.
Maeglin looks past that, sees what is going on and decides to do something about it.
Morgoth being defeated shortly after Aredhel's death would have made a great many people a lot happier! I think if Maeglin had been free to come and go, it would have certainly relieved some of the pressure.