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Reviewer: IgnobleBard Signed [Report This]
Date: July 08, 2014 - 08:59 pm
Title: Círdan the Shipwright

Very informative and well cited. I enjoy reading about Cirdan because, as you say, he shows up everywhere but I know so little about him. He's such a strong, independent character and played a larger role in events than I ever realized. Nice bio. Looking forward to the next part.



Author's Response:

Thanks you so much! Thanks for reading and for taking the time to comment. I am looking forward to writing the next part! Thanks for the encouragement and also for reading parts of this one before it was finished. I cannot think of him without thinking of your pre-historic elves story (Hearts Like the Sea).

Reviewer: oshun Signed [Report This]
Date: July 07, 2014 - 04:14 pm
Title: Círdan the Shipwright

I did add a parenthetical sentence to the first paragraph to make clear my intent in the previous sentence. I think that should clarify any possible misreading.

And, after the triumph of the free peoples of Middle-earth at the end of the Third Age, he captains the last ship which leaves from the Grey Havens to sail to Elvenhome. (Although the date and circumstances of said "last ship" are not clearly stated anywhere, it would almost certainly would have left no earlier than a few years into the Fourth Age.")

 

Reviewer: erunyauve Signed [Report This]
Date: July 06, 2014 - 07:35 am
Title: Círdan the Shipwright

Círdan!  I'm looking forward to the second part - I think his participation in the Nirnaeth is so important, given that Nargothrond and Doriath wouldn't have any part in it.  As always, all the references are appreciated!

One minor correction - I'm pretty sure that Círdan remained at least into the Fourth Age.  Appendix A has this:  'At the Grey Havens dwelt Círdan the Shipwright, and some say he dwells there still, until the Last Ship sets sail into the West. In the days of the Kings most of the High Elves that still lingered in Middle-earth dwelt with Círdan or in the seaward lands of Lindon. If any now remain they are few.' (p 1039 Kindle Edition).  It's given in quotes, meaning that Pippin sourced it from documents in Minas Tirith, so 'now' is hard to pinpoint.  However, Sam sails from the Havens in Shire Year 1482, or 4th Age 61.



Author's Response:

So sorry!!! I will have to re-read and see if I can figure what you are referring to. Must be clumsy writing and/or bad grammar on my part--unless I accidentally deleted part of a sentence or paragraph or smething. I never, never intended to say he was not there until well into the Fourth Age--although that stuff will be described better in part II.

Thanks for reading.




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